Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!know!sdd.hp.com!ucsd!ucbvax!ITI.ORG!aws From: aws@ITI.ORG ("Allen W. Sherzer") Newsgroups: sci.space Subject: Re: LLNL size and Fred micrograv environment Message-ID: <9011131955.AA18407@iti.org> Date: 13 Nov 90 19:55:19 GMT References: <2721@polari.UUCP> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow Lines: 45 In article <2721@polari.UUCP>: >+This is not a benefit, it is a liability. Ask the micrograv >+researchers. A free-flyer can be tailored to the job, and >+does not suffer from vibration or CG shifts on the station proper. >In an ideal sense this is true. In practice, experiments fail all >the time, and benefit from human intervention to get them going >again. But then the things you do to fix the failed experiment may well break several others. This is why microgravity people would rather have a free-flyer. >It is rather the reverse, the experiments will have to be scheduled >around when the burns are required, which will be once or twice per >orbit. Not a serious problem. >+On a manned platform, you are going to have vibration any time the >+crew is moving around, which will be much of the time. There is work >+which cannot be done on a manned platform, and the Fred design >+doesn't allow for it at all. >Indeed. It is a trade off. NASA considers human presence to be >of benefit, on balance. This is true. The problem is that the benefit goes to NASA and not to the people doing microgravity work. Many material scientists, concerned over vibrations in the station that would be caused by nearby astronauts, continue to urge NASA to consider removing their projects to orbiting laboratories that would only be visited by astronauts. -- Avation Week Nov. 12, 1990 page 27 Allen -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Allen W. Sherzer| I had a guaranteed military sale with ED-209. Renovation | | aws@iti.org | programs, spare parts for 25 years. Who cares if it | | | works or not? - Dick Jones, VP OCP Security Concepts |