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From: kcl-cs!wyatt@relay.EU.NET (The Mage)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: Female human aesthetics
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Date: 12 Nov 90 17:02:59 GMT
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In article <14515@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.EDU (Russell Turpin) writes:
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>In article <8654@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, carioca@ucscb.ucsc.edu (fOoDFoOdfOoDiTYfooD!) writes:
>> ... Women are expected to be beautiful so that they can win the
>> attention of men. [more, deleted]
>
>The question is: to *which* men does one want to appeal?  Some of
>us are turned off by the look and behavior promoted in these
>magazines.  Of course, we likely the men who are considered "less
>than eligible".
>

(NOTE: I am new to this group. Please direct flames at ME - don't post
'em and waste bandwidth! Thankyou..!!)


	I agree totally. Personally, I have a tendency to just flip
past any pages of fashion, etc, in any kind of magazine I may be
reading, quite simply because most of the models advertising the
clothes, etc are not my idea of an attractive woman. How can you like
something two-dimensional?! (Most of 'em are thin as bicycle spokes
anyway... yuk)

	I currently have no girlfriend in my life, mainly because I'm
one of those men who everyone thinks is a 'really nice guy' (kiss of
death...). Girls are quite happy to chat for hours, go out almost
anywhere and do the craziest things, but they will almost always go
steady with someone who's going to treat 'em bad. Then they'll come
running to me when they get hurt. And although I'm very willing to
console and comfort, because I care, it's not the easiest thing to be
nice when you want to ask why they ignored _you_. It seems that the
'eligible' men are the ones who look good (not that I'm scruffy or
have no dress sense...) and who drink enormous amounts of alcohol and
do incredibly amusing things, like smashing windows, etc...

	I seem to have digressed. What I was trying to say is that
this thing cuts both ways: the men who want more than a
pipe-cleaner-thin model are often the ones who get ignored, simply
because they're not the six-foot gorgeous hunks that the really
attractive (i.e. have a mind, a personality and are fun to be with)
girls want to have around.

	Maybe in ten years time, when they want to settle down - then
maybe we'll be the ones who get noticed, huh?

			Steve 'Uh-oh, here come the flames...
			       I knew I shouldn't have done it!' Wyatt