Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!psuvax1!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jow@pacbell.com (Jeff Westman) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Doctrine vs. the Bible Message-ID: Date: 9 Nov 90 05:20:13 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: N/A Lines: 49 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article ASC105@psuvm.psu.edu writes: | It seems as if though many, naturally, are saying things unsupported by | the bible (Word of God). What I mean is this: When a pastor teaches a | doctrine opposing what the bible says, the people listening will believe | the pastor rather than the bible. This is true. We should be more like the Bereans, who DAILY sought the Scriptures to "see if these things were true." | It seems like too many people are trying to make the Bible fit the | into the natural world. It should be the other way around. Ditto again! | For example, if a person gets sick and dies of cancer, many say, | "it's the will of God." But that's opposite of what the bible says. | The bible says that Jesus Christ carried out sickness so that we don't | have to carry it ourselves. I know this for a fact, so when I get sick, | I just say "Satan, you don't put that on me! Sickness, Get off me in | the name of JESUS!"--and it goes. It had to go because I knew that | as a believer in Christ this was part of God's redemptive plan. WHOA!!! God uses sickness as part of His what?! Sickness is the result of original sin. God never intended for mankind to be vulnerable to illness, much less death. But man sinned. There are so many ewxamples in Scripture about illness. The prime example, perhaps, is when Paul had the "thorn" in his side. A pharisee among pharsee, Jew among Jews, he much to boast about; so God ***ALLOWED*** this "thorn" (we don't really know what he had) that **GOD** may be glorified through Pauls humility. What about the boy who Jesus healed (oh, how I wish I had that Bible with me today!!). The onlookers asked if it was the parents fault (their sin) that caused this, and Jesus said, "no, it is that God may be glorified." Some people even go so far as to say that you get sick because there is sin in your life. While the Bible DOES talk about CONTINUING, WILLFUL sin will bring certain sickness (1 Cor 11, Rev 2), and even death, this does not mean that God does not allow sickness for His name's sake. Although I have not personally been bed-ridden or critically ill, I have fallen prey to certain flues and colds that happened when I worked too much and ignored my family. God used THIS circumstance to reorganize my priorities. | In Jesus's Name, | Allen S. Cheung | (JESUS IS LORD) Jesus IS Lord -- always was -- always will be!! :-) -- Jeff