Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!psuvax1!ukma!seismo!dimacs.rutgers.edu!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jhpb@granjon.garage.att.com Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Pagan baptism Message-ID: Date: 16 Nov 90 21:19:24 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: AT&T Bell Labs (Liberty Corner) Lines: 25 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Tom Albrecht wrote: Joe Buehler wrote: >Just a clarification; the problem with aspersion is not whether you get >wet or not, it's whether the water flows or not. The water has to flow >for a valid Baptism. It makes sense, Catholic-wise, because a Sacrament >has to signify what it effects (in this case, the cleansing of a soul). I don't understand how, looking at the action from a biblical viewpoint, you can make such a fine distinction about pouring vs. sprinkling. Sorry, I misled. The three ways of baptizing: infusion (pouring), immersion, and aspersion (sprinkling) can all be valid. I think Charley made a comment about aspersion. I should have suggested a reason why some such baptisms might be considered invalid from the standpoint of Catholic theology and left it at that. If you want a full treatise, read the article on Baptism in the (old) Catholic Encyclopedia. Joe Buehler