Xref: utzoo comp.ai:8035 sci.psychology:3678 alt.cyberpunk:5066 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!mmm From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) Newsgroups: comp.ai,sci.psychology,alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: Fluid vs. Crystallized Intelligence Message-ID: <36099@cup.portal.com> Date: 20 Nov 90 18:43:01 GMT References: <36059@cup.portal.com> <1990Nov19.220725.349@ingres.Ingres.COM> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 38 > appear. You believe that, don't you? No? Then why > do you persist in claiming that neurons have ideas? I thought I was careful to use the term "agent" when talking about individual particles of intelligence. This could be a higher-level entity than a neuron. As an analogy, the gates and flip-flops of a computer are not made from individual transistors -- they are clusters of transistors, each serving a different function within the unit. Likewise, I think that the different types of cells in the cerebral cortex may serve specialized functions in the complexes of cells which are the atoms of intelligence. If 1 agent == 1 neuron, it would be more likely that the cortex would be composed of a single cell type, which it is not. Another piece of evidence supporting the 1 agent = many neurons concept is the structure of the cerebellum. This organ is a repeat structure of the same complex of neurons across its entire surface. I forget the number of neurons in the complex, but I think it's about 15. There's a hierarchy of structure to the human brain, which is mostly unrecognized due to the profound influence of the Golgi stain on neurophysiology. The Golgi stain is a technique for visualizing individual nerve cells in a tissue. For unknown reasons, the Golgi stain only affects about one cell in a thousand -- seemingly a cell picked at random. This makes the cells more visible, because the darkly-stained cell stands out against the mostly-colorless unstained cells. This allowed the early neuroanatomist Santiago Ramon y Cajal to produce his stunning series of drawings describing most of the major cell types in the nervous system. These drawings not only appear in many texts, but have influenced succeeding generations of anatomical illustrators and photographers. It has programmed an unconscious bias. A drawing or a photo that doesn't look like a Cajal drawing looks subtly wrong. Unfortunately the Golgi stain has exerted a bias on our view of the brain. We know a lot about the individual cell structures, but the intermediate-level structures are completely invisible to Golgi staining. It's as though the only way to look at a tree is to cut down the neighboring forest for the radius of a mile.