Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!cbnewse!rhb From: rhb@cbnewse.att.com (richard.h.bradley) Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy Subject: You can't get semantics by playing with syntax. Message-ID: <1990Nov19.215824.7547@cbnewse.att.com> Date: 19 Nov 90 21:58:24 GMT Distribution: usa Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 26 The argument can be suggested by considering an analogy used elsewhere. As digestion requires chemical interaction with a substrate, so thought requires semantical interaction with some object. Formal simulation - incremental description of the process - will not digest an apple or create an idea. This is of course not a logical argument. Nevertheless, it is a statement that may be true or false, and perhaps deserves attention. Through I/O devices, models of formal systems are able to interact with external physical objects. Thus internal syntactical operations are able to affect and be affected by external things. This critical I/O interface introduces all the semantics that should be relevant. (Of course a typewriter interface will not produce the same semantics as a rod/cone/ muscle/sinew interface.) The correctness or error of the subject statement may turn out to be unimportant. If the output of the entire system is best explained as an interaction of thoughts, ideas, and circumstances, then it seems practical to ascribe thoughts and ideas to the system. Although to affect the world an idea must have substance, the particular substance would seem not to be significant. (Perhaps a dualist will disagree.) Dick Bradley att!cbnewse!rhb