Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!alberta!cpsc.ucalgary.ca!ctycal!ingoldsb From: ingoldsb@ctycal.UUCP (Terry Ingoldsby) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Graphics Primitives Summary: Don't forget VMS Message-ID: <513@ctycal.UUCP> Date: 20 Nov 90 19:26:00 GMT References: <0093F6A8.35049DA0@KING.ENG.UMD.EDU> <11030@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <42992@mips.mips.COM> Organization: The City of Calgary, Ab Lines: 30 In article <42992@mips.mips.COM>, mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) writes: ... > This is a worthy instance of a kind of design issue that has often > come up: how do you decide what to include in a chip, > and specifically, how much (that ought to be) software > gets included, and how well does that work? There's been a lot of marketing > lately about "putting the human interface on a chip", whatever that means. ... > Other examples where hardware was designed with very specific > languages or other software in mind: > > 1) Burroughs B5500 (for Algol): I'd call this successful in many ... > 2) Intel 432: not so successful. Aren't you forgetting one of the most successful symbiotic relationships? I speak of VAX/VMS. I took a VMS Internals course a few years ago, and was struck by the frequency with which the VAX architecture just happened to be exactly what was needed for VMS. I finally concluded that if VAX was not designed for VMS, then certainly the hardware architects had a lot of input from the VMS people. Can anyone confirm or negate my suspicions? -- Terry Ingoldsby ctycal!ingoldsb%cpsc.ucalgary.ca Land Information Services or The City of Calgary ...{alberta,ubc-cs,utai}!calgary!ctycal!ingoldsb