Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!mcsun!hp4nl!star.cs.vu.nl!sater From: sater@cs.vu.nl (Hans van Staveren) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Is programming still allowed? Message-ID: <8319@star.cs.vu.nl> Date: 22 Nov 90 10:15:57 GMT Sender: news@cs.vu.nl Lines: 20 Recent developments with a workstation supplier that shall, for the moment, remain unidentified, have made us think about the following: Is it reasonable to assume that if you buy computer hardware from a supplier that the information needed to program that hardware should be available to you? Information like the address of the Ethernet chip on the board, details about memory management and the like, in short everything you need to know to write your own operating system. What is the position of the current major vendors? If they all make the same fuss about it as the one we are dealing with now the research into operating systems can only test real systems on strange hardware. That can hardly benefit the progress of operating system design. Hans van Staveren Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam, Holland The Amoeba Group