Xref: utzoo comp.databases:7892 comp.unix.sysv386:2288 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!emory!rsiatl!jgd From: jgd@rsiatl.UUCP (John G. DeArmond) Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Vermont Views Keywords: user interface, oracle Message-ID: <4999@rsiatl.UUCP> Date: 20 Nov 90 01:29:44 GMT Followup-To: comp.databases Organization: Rapid Deployment Systems, Inc. (making go fast things and things go fast) Lines: 33 cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes: >Don't know much about Oracle, but for an interface tool Vermont Views is >real good. Good design tool (it will dump interface libraries to be read >by your run-time code, or dump C code so you can twiddle bits), Full range >of control functions from the high menu level to the low before, during >and after field functions (The point is that you have as much control as >you want to use). Connor, Not to sound belligerant but I wonder if you've used the Unix version much. At my last client, we sweated nails with it. It works BUT... The biggest problem is that it do not work through curses and instead they invented a "better idea". You are pretty much stuck with vt100/ansi terminals and the AT386 terminal as implemented in ISC Unix 2.2 does NOT work. The screen splatters enough to not be readable. Plus the screen update is not smart so you end up with really slow screens over communications lines. I gave up on trying to use VV on the console of our Compaq development system and used NCSA Telnet over ethernet which worked pretty well. I'm still looking for a high level screen interface library and editor that works through curses or at least knows how to use a standard terminfo. John -- John De Armond, WD4OQC | "Purveyors of Performance Products Rapid Deployment System, Inc. | to the Trade " (tm) Marietta, Ga | {emory,uunet}!rsiatl!jgd | "Vote early, Vote often"