Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!bu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: Jack.Winslade@f666.n285.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Winslade) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: *Long* Phone Calls -- What Does Ma Think? Message-ID: <68873@bu.edu.bu.edu> Date: 15 Nov 90 14:51:31 GMT Sender: news@bu.edu.bu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 50 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 826, Message 4 of 12 In message <1190094024@iugate.UUCP>, "andrew M. Boardman" writes: { ... in regards to >>VERY<< long calls } > - What would one's local phone company think of this? > - In the expected case that they aren't too fond of losing > out on the megabucks for a leased line, do they have > legal ground telling you to stop? Back around 1970 or so, there was a belief held by some members of the electronic community that if you were to order two lines (in different locations, of course), dialed one into the other and >>NEVER<< broke the connection, there would be no bill for the call, since the billing was done at the time the call was terminated. Of course I never knew anyone who really tried this. This supposedly would work whether the endless call was local or across the country. This idea was reinforced when an employee of AT&T Long Lines told me that there was a good chance that after several months, after the billing tapes were changed several times or something like that, there was a good chance that the equipment would 'forget' about the connection and never bill at all, even if/when it was terminated. Yes, I know about 'chasing permanents', but this was in the NYC area circa 1970, where many of the offices were aging panel and #1 crossbar that were held together with scotch tape and typically had such things like unused twisted-pair jumpers banjo-strung all over the frames. The switch crews were busy just keeping the switches up, let alone tracing permanents (if the PS lamps weren't burned out. ;-) There was some kind of a tape-based CAMA system that billed a whole group of offices from a central point. I think some of the offices still billed for local units with 'odometer' type counters which were photographed each month. Maybe some of the 'experts' on billing systems could confirm if this was true at that time. I am, of course, assuming that if it were true, the case has been dealt with and the modern billing software is smart enough to catch it and bill for it. Good Day! JSW [1:285/666@fidonet] DRBBS Technical BBS, Omaha (1:285/666) --- Through FidoNet gateway node 1:16/390 Jack.Winslade@f666.n285.z1.fidonet.org