Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!julius.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!bionet!synoptics!unix!garth!smryan From: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Aggressive optimization Summary: A roomful of monkeys. Message-ID: <158@garth.UUCP> Date: 19 Nov 90 20:13:25 GMT References: <5059:Nov1323:43:2290@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> <5839@lanl.gov> Reply-To: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan) Organization: INTERGRAPH (APD) -- Palo Alto, CA Lines: 22 >Fine. The compiler won't be able to determine this one. Neither will >the human programmer. If the programmer knows a priori which branch I haven't been following all the fascinating details (yawn) of this discussion, but if the arguments are based on this assumption, they are invalid. That is, the assumption that you must only consider what a reasonable programmer would do. Unless you have an algorithm for distinguishing reasonable and unreasonable programs. Regardless of whether humans are computationally more powerful than computers, an argument must consider any possible program, whether from a reasonable programmer or a roomful of Cobol programmers (or monkeys, if there is any difference). For my sake, please, just pretend to be rigorous. Like all that nonsense that computer=fsm without any demonstration that the total external media is a priori bounded. -- ...!uunet!ingr!apd!smryan Steven Ryan ...!{apple|pyramid}!garth!smryan 2400 Geng Road, Palo Alto, CA