Xref: utzoo comp.lang.misc:6131 comp.software-eng:4468 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!rutgers!mcnc!uvaarpa!murdoch!murdoch.acc.virginia.edu!bglenden From: bglenden@mandrill.cv.nrao.edu (Brian Glendenning) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Aggressive optimization Message-ID: Date: 21 Nov 90 19:30:12 GMT References: <2701@l.cc.purdue.edu> <5009@lanl.gov> <6PX6-O@xds13.ferranti.com> <7177:Nov620:48:1590@kramden.acf.nyu.edu> Sender: news@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory Lines: 25 In-Reply-To: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk's message of 8 Nov 90 16:39:39 GMT In article pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes: This discussion reminds me of Dijkstra's famous address in 1968 to some (the IFIP?) conference, on the software crisis, that went like this: We have a software crisis, and we are told that we must advance the state of the art so as to solve it. We are only given a few constraints to satisfy: no changes to the hardware platforms no changes to the languages no changes to the operating systems no changes to the education of programmers no changes to the software tools no changes to organizational practices ... Well, this is RIDICULOUS! Does anyone have the correct reference for this (or even the actual text?) Thanks! Brian -- Brian Glendenning - National Radio Astronomy Observatory bglenden@nrao.edu bglenden@nrao.bitnet (804) 296-0286