Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!caen!math.lsa.umich.edu!sharkey!tygra!cat From: cat@tygra.ddmi.com (CAT-TALK Maint. Account) Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk Subject: Re: Anarchy Message-ID: <523@tygra.ddmi.com> Date: 21 Nov 90 11:56:33 GMT References: <1990Nov19.192456.3726@com50.c2s.mn.org> <173ws5w163w@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca> Reply-To: jpp@tygra.ddmi.com (John Palmer) Organization: CAT-TALK Conferencing Network, Detroit, MI Lines: 24 In article <173ws5w163w@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca> curt@cynic.wimsey.bc.ca (Curt Sampson) writes: "craig@com50.c2s.mn.org (Craig Wilson) writes: " "I don't see any "newgroup creation 'rights'" belonging to the "moderator of news.announce.newgroups, either. I have yet to see a "case where he has refused to post a call for discussion or a call for "votes when asked a second time after a refusal. " FALSE. Recently, a call for discussion about a new hierarchy called "ads" was posted and the moderator refused to allow it through. He sent me a message asking for more information about the hierarchy. I replied and he failed to post the call for discussion. This thing is so highly politically motivated that you just wouldn't believe it!! "So what control do these "central authorities" actually exert? To my "eyes, they have no more than the rest of the net chooses to give them. "If somebody in usenet gets quashed, it's not by a central authority. "It's by the consensus of a large part of the net. " Yes, in the controlled anarchy that is USENET, all citizens are responsible for justice, not just some central authority. In a way, thats kinda nice - people feel that they have some control.