Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Warning: Keep-Alive considered harmful Message-ID: <1990Nov19.162245.10683@zoo.toronto.edu> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <1990Nov16.164448.9918@bwdls61.bnr.ca> <9011170344.AA20268@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU> <1990Nov19.063111.21768@Think.COM> Date: Mon, 19 Nov 90 16:22:45 GMT In article <1990Nov19.063111.21768@Think.COM> barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes: >Unfortunately, keep-alives are sometimes needed to work around deficiencies >in application protocols. For instance, there's no way for a server telnet >to detect when the client host has crashed ... I think this is a confusion of mechanism with policy. A server telnet needs a way to tell the TCP layer "ping the other end". That is not the same as having a wired-in policy that the TCP layer will ping the other end regularly and break the connection if there is no response. -- "I don't *want* to be normal!" | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology "Not to worry." | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry