Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!src.honeywell.com!valiant!carpent From: carpent@SRC.Honeywell.COM (Todd Carpenter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Citadel for the Amiga Message-ID: <1990Nov21.132355.2162@src.honeywell.com> Date: 21 Nov 90 13:23:55 GMT References: <25506@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> <46998@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Sender: news@src.honeywell.com (News interface) Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center Lines: 42 In-Reply-To: nop@mcs-server.gac.edu's message of 20 Nov 90 16:58:57 Nntp-Posting-Host: valiant.src.honeywell.com In article nop@mcs-server.gac.edu (Jay Carlson) writes: Jay> That package is Citadel-68k, a terribly direct port from the MS-DOS BBS Jay> Citadel-86. Jay> The policy of the author of Cit-86 has been no public access to source Jay> code. While I can somewhat understand his reasons for keeping the Jay> public away from source, his decision has meant a lack of competition Jay> and progress for Cit-86 and its derivitive Cit-68k. Cit-68k has huge Jay> performance problems due to unbuffered output to the console---on the Jay> Amiga, character-by-character output is highly CPU intensive. Many Jay> parts of Cit-68k show gross inattention to CPU usage; it is impossible Jay> to use other applications while the BBS is up. Bull. Perhaps you have not used the latest 3.31b release of Citadel. I always have that running on my 2500/30, and I have *never* had performance problems with my ray tracing, text editing, or any other tool I wish to multitask. The latest release *did* speed up console output by a huge amount, so perhaps your gripe is valid for earlier releases. And of course, I DO know how to use that nice feature of the Amiga, called "priority," which allows me to dump the Citadel to a lower priority so even if it wants to interefere, it doesn't. :) Jay> Several times, I have shown simple mods that would ease the Amiga Jay> port's performance problem to the Cit-68k team; they rejected them Jay> without consideration. This is not the sign of a project responsive Jay> to its users. Because the author is busier than #@$%, doesn't own an Amiga, and has to drive a good distance to get access to one. GEEZ!! THIS ISN'T EVEN SHAREWARE!!! Get a Life! Rude gripes like this are most annoying. You make it sound as if he owes you something. And I have had quite a bit of success with my Citadel. Jay> STadel no comment, or experience with that. Todd P. Carpenter Honeywell Systems and Research Center voice: (612)782-7229 3660 Technology Drive, Minneapolis, MN 55418-1006 domain: carpent@src.honeywell.com or Arkon%kryl@src.honeywell.com bang-style: !srcsip!carpent Citadel: US 612 699 3106 (Kryl) User Manual, p34, line 5: I am not authorized to have any opinions.