Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ncar!midway!gargoyle!igloo!miroc!caw From: caw@miroc.Chi.IL.US (Christopher A. Wichura) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Awesome! Now I am Pi**ed! Message-ID: Date: 22 Nov 90 23:41:05 GMT References: <36787@nigel.ee.udel.edu> <21740@well.sf.ca.us> <9238@mirsa.inria.fr> Lines: 119 In article <9238@mirsa.inria.fr> buffa@kish.inria.fr (Michel Buffa) writes: >In article <21740@well.sf.ca.us>, farren@well.sf.ca.us (Mike Farren) writes: >> fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes: >> >[...] it's not the first Psygnosis game that she's gotten WAY >> >too many returns on. Why, oh why can they be such good game programmers >> >and such LOUSY producers? >> >> Who says they're good game programmers? > >I SAY THEY ARE GOOD PROGRAMMERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gee whiz bang! Let's all repent our sins and bow down to the mighty programmers at Psygnosis and beg their forgiveness. Gimme a break. > Won't run on a 3000 > >WHO CARES ? Don't buy a 3000 if you are a real video game fanatic. I own an A3000 and I care. I also play games, alot. And if it doesn't work I take it back. The company should care too, because they are only losing sales. If they followed the rules Commodore has published from DAY ONE, their games __WOULD__ work on a 3000. There is no excuse. They chuck the OS anyway so all they have to do is follow some basic primitives and they would be ok. But they can't even do that. I'm with Mike on this one. >> won't run reliably on a number of different configurations > >Really, people with a 68020 accelerator, and custom ehancements aren't people >who play much. You'd better had bought a 500 instead of this stupid ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Say's who? I play a lot of games. Probably more than is good for me. >accelerator card or this stupid hard drive controller, made only for people >who use their amiga for working (BEUUUUUURK !!!!) So everyone out there that bought their Amiga for something other than games are the one's in the wrong? You sir, are the one who is in err. If all you wanted to do was play cames you'd have been better off buying a Genisis and TurboGraphics-16 for the same price (or, more likely, significantly less) you payed for your 500. >> can't be put on a hard drive > >WHO CARES ???????? What is the interest of putting a shot'em up on a HD ??? >If you had a normal A500 configuration (2 drives, 1 meg), the custom dos ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Here you define a normal 500, eh? So how come many games won't even work under those coniditions? There's Mr. Farren's `won't run reliably' in the flesh and blood and I haven't even pulled an accelerator card on you. >(YEAHHH ! I love custom fast dos, because I can load my games faster than all >the serious folks with expensive configurations, who can not even play the game >!!! HA ! HA ! HA !) You've obviously never seen a hard drive in action. Even with custom loaders, floppy hardware is limited to something around 30k/sec reads (someone give a more exact figure, please). Meanwhile, I get 800k/sec or better reads from my HD. I'd like to see your floppy read an ENTIRE disk in just ONE second. The first thing I do with a game if it's hard drive installable is to put it on my HD. Floppies are just way to slow to even be tolerable for anything else but moving stuff to HD or doing backups. And don't give me a line about how people don't install games on their HDs. Where this idea came from, I don't know. I'll leave a game on the HD until I stop playing it and have something else to replace it with. Until then, there's no harm in having it there. >> can't be backed up, > >I agree with you on this one. There's hope for you yet... >> can't be multitasked > >I HATE MULTITASKING GAMES. When i play I don't want to do something else. Try >to make a 60 frames/second shoot'em'up multitask !!! I hate multitasking Obviously you and I have different tastes in games. I prefer more of the stratergy/simulation/rpg type games than the shooters. Even still, I'd rather have the choice of a game that will slow down if I wanna multitask with it or that will run full speed if I'm not running anything else. There isn't any reason games shouldn't multitask. I run many other programs, and because of multitasking I don't have to shut them down. If it comes down to a game or my work, well the game is gonna lose no matter what. >anyway because I just bought my computer for playing and I'm sure I payed an >extra for this !@#$$%% multitasking system. I just want to play games. Forever >!!!! As I said before, you bought the wrong machine. >-- all of these say to me that they are LOUSY game programmers. >I love "The Killing Game Show" About the only decent game you've listed here. Psygnosis graphics in a game one can actually PLAY... And it even works on an A3000 (at least mine, anyway). >------------------------------------------ >Michel Buffa: Projet Robotvis, INRIA, France > Internet: buffa@sardaigne.inria.fr -=> CAW /////////////////////////////////////|\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Christopher A. Wichura |Real programmers don't play tennis, or caw@miroc.chi.il.us (my amiga) |any other sport that requires you to u12401@uicvm.uic.edu (school account)|change clothes. Mountain climbing is |OK, and real programmers wear their Please! Do not send mail to my school|climbing boots to work in case a account unless mail to miroc bounces.|mountain should suddenly spring up in I often do not check uicvm.uic.edu |the middle of the machine room. for periods in excess of a week. | --Unix Fortune \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\|//////////////////////////////////////