Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!-Rich- From: -Rich-@cup.portal.com (Richard Sherman Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: a talk with an apple person.... Message-ID: <36187@cup.portal.com> Date: 24 Nov 90 01:34:50 GMT References: <1990Nov17.052755.29141@magnus.ircc.ohio-state.edu> <1990Nov23.203757.3532@hoss.unl.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 35 I used to use mostly 8-bit programs, when using 3.5" drives. But since getting a new QUANTUM 105S, I find myself using very few 8-bit programs. Currently I use PT 2.2 and BINSCII for modem work, as there are really no alternatives. But I have stopped using SHRINKIT 3.03 in favor of GS SHRINKIT, and I use NDA's instead of the old 8-bit utilities. They get the job done better and faster. P8 is much more convenient than GS/OS for a 2 disk 3.5" system. And I imagine for those with less, it is not practical to run most 16-bit applications. Most of the Apple // users in Silicon valley that I know who have HD's use GS/OS. While most of those with floppy's use P8. So in conclusion, the statement that most GS owners use P8 programs seems to be equivalent to saying that GS/OS is most useful when run from a HD, which most //gs owners do not have. I would also like to point out that many operations are SLOW in GS/OS, though not as slow as P16. The GS/OS programmers have done a wonderful job, but the //gs still is kinda underpowered to drive a GUI. I just ordered a ZipChip GSX, which should hopefully put some life back into GS/OS. I wonder how much it will cost to upgrade to 64K of cache??? And of course, any resemblance between the hallucinations you are seeing above, and reality, if such exists, is just bad luck. Rich -rich-@cup.portal.com