Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!world!boris From: boris@world.std.com (Boris Levitin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Some questions to APPLE Message-ID: <1990Nov18.110128.8081@world.std.com> Date: 18 Nov 90 11:01:28 GMT References: <1990Nov15.044137.13223@cs.uoregon.edu> <1990Nov15.182253.5628@portia.Stanford.EDU> <1990Nov16.040108.9863@phri.nyu.edu> Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die Lines: 49 roy@phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes: >mckenzie@elaine5.stanford.edu (David McKenzie) writes: >> They (and NeXT) are in business to make as much money as possible > Folks, take that line from David's article I quoted above and print >it out in big type and paste it on your office/terminal-room/whatever wall, >right above where you read (and post) netnews. The next time you are about >to post a "why does X do Y!" rant, re-read it, and think about it. I think few people would expect Apple to act like a charitable institution. The issue was the upgradeability of various Mac models. Rightly or wrongly, Apple has been accused of arbitrarily limiting the expandability of some of its products (i.e. not providing upgrades that would be relatively easy to make available). I submit that such behavior on the part of any for- profit company would not be moral, would represent a lack of respect for the customers thanks to whom the company enjoys such prosperity as it does, and is in no way dictated by the capitalist system within which Apple operates. The norms of vendor-client relationships in our Capitalist society are whatever we make them; nothing dictates that the vendor's hands be permanently clenched around the customer's neck. In my opinion, the new product introductions, items such as the II=>IIfx upgrade and 8*24GC card, and finally (after six years) customer support, signify that in the instance of Apple and Mac users, the vendor is at last beginning to live up to its billing. As far as prices are concerned, again, few people would expect Apple to cut its overall profits altruistically by slashing prices. The idea is that lower prices would more than make up for the resulting per-unit profit cuts by wider sales, and, strategically, making the MacOS more of a competitor to DOS in the worldwide installed base. Apple's constant assertions that this or that design decision in the new models was necessary to keep prices down are semi-disingenuous: while optimized engineering and manufacturing certainly have their place in making the new machines affordable, Apple's margins in the last few years have been well above average for the industry, according to the press reports I've seen. The fact that price reductions could have been made even without the reduction in manufacturing costs, and that they were made in an effort to expand the market, is proven by statements from Michael Spindler ("We'll have to eat margin," a few months ago, and less- sharply-worded versions of this for the past few years from him) and John Sculley. "The Market" is not this static thing, David, and your management is finally beginning to act on that assumption. Boris Levitin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- WGBH Public Broadcasting, Boston boris@world.std.com Audience & Marketing Research wgbx!boris_levitin@athena.mit.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (The opinions expressed herein are my own and do not necessarily coincide with those of my employer or anyone else. The WGBH tag is for ID only.)