Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uupsi!sunic!chalmers.se!cs.chalmers.se!jeffrey From: jeffrey@cs.chalmers.se (Alan Jeffrey) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: Ragged right philosophizing Keywords: troff, tex Message-ID: <4340@undis.cs.chalmers.se> Date: 23 Nov 90 17:45:30 GMT References: <1990Nov21.153806.2787@cbnewsl.att.com> Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden Lines: 49 In article <1990Nov21.153806.2787@cbnewsl.att.com> npn@cbnewsl.att.com (nils-peter.nelson) writes: >Really a follow-up on Tuthill's question... >First, ragged right usually looks a lot better than >flush right in multicolumn documents; that's because >the narrower the column the less room there is to >play with white space. Well, sometimes. If you're playing with a {\em really\/} narrow measure then you either run ragged-right, live with rubbish, or spend your time doing optical markup (or rewriting the text). In some cases you can live with ragged right, but it gives a very different `feel' to a document. It tends to work well with informal texts, for example in the `computing textbook' style of layout, such as Heading This is a paragraph which runs on and on and probably explains something very dull about compiler optimisation. But if you're trying for a book/magazine design which is authoratative, serious, composed, oldstyle, etc. then ragged right really isn't acceptable. Horses for courses and all that. [...] >(The "desktop publishing" >look (read "amateur") is usually due to excessive kerning >(too tight or too loose) or the free use of vertical space >that results in an accordion look up and down the page.) `Kerning' is a word that's being over-used and moreover used in a different sense than it's original meaning---it used to mean part of a letter that stuck out over another, for example `To'. What we're arguing about is letterspaceing. But yes, most DTP systems suffer very badly from this sort of mis-use. `New wave' typography can work very well, but it has to be used sparingly, as part of a design, and only for display copy. TeX is pretty good at trying to get a uniform colour for a paragraph though. It's not perfect, but it's better than anything else we've got. At the moment, the only other alternative is hiring trained compositors. Just nit picking, Alan. -- Alan Jeffrey Tel: +46 31 72 10 98 jeffrey@cs.chalmers.se Department of Computer Sciences, Chalmers University, Gothenburg, Sweden