Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!pacbell.com!ucsd!usc!cs.utexas.edu!yale!cmcl2!adm!news From: mail-support%cernvax.cern.ch@pucc.princeton.edu Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals Subject: Warning: Failed mail to VMS host Message-ID: <25075@adm.brl.mil> Date: 21 Nov 90 01:57:19 GMT Sender: news@adm.brl.mil Lines: 118 Your message to <@DxMINT.cern.ch:OLAVI%13411.decnet.CERN@CERNVAX.BITNET> could not be delivered. The error message was: Deferred: %MAIL-E-OPENOUT, error openning as output This message is equivalent to the DECnet-VAX error message: -SYSTEM-F-EXDISKQUOTA, disk quota exceeded The reason why your message could not be delivered is caused by the fact that your correspondants account has ran out of diskquota. Please contact your correspondant (by phone or otherwise) and tell him about this problem. ====== The start of Your original message ====== UNIX-WIZARDS Digest Fri, 16 Nov 1990 V11#033 Today's Topics: Re: $ENV: ?? What does that mean?!! Re: Killer Micro Question Re: Killer Micro Question vs. mainframes Re: Killer Micro Question Where the Hell is everyone? Re: how to setuid for shell scripts? Status of voting to rename comp.unix.internals Re: question on select() and sockets UniForum Research Award Program Re: YA4.1B Re: asserts and unexpected returns (was: Re: Assert) Re: What is the kernel doing? How to Interprete the Counters Kept at "/usr/include/sys/dk.h" ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Hull-Richter Subject: Re: $ENV: ?? What does that mean?!! Date: 14 Nov 90 18:14:38 GMT To: unix-wizards@sem.brl.mil In article <24894@adm.BRL.MIL>, ARCARDW%INDSVAX1.BITNET@uicvm.uic.edu (DUDE OF TIME) writes: > > Yes, its me again. What does $ENV: mean in Korne Shell??? > > Is it a path to environment file??? or what???? > > HELP! > > Paul. Well, if you would RTFM I think you would find the answer fairly easily. I quote: ENV If this variable is set, then parameter substitution is performed on the value to generate the pathname of the script that will be executed when the shell is invoked (see Invocation, below [in the man page, not here]). This file is typically used for alias and function definitions. This is why it is usually a good idea to RTFM before making a world-wide public humiliating spectacle of oneself. Vicious? Acerbic? Sarcastic? Not me - I just call 'em as I see 'em. Oh, and by the way, it's Korn shell (after its author, Dave Korn). -- Mark A. Hull-Richter, Software Engineering Specialist I (714)458-7282x539 ICL, 9801 Muirlands Boulevard, Irvine, CA 92713 To err is human; to forgive is not my policy. UUCP: ccicpg!mahrk (alt: ccicpg!{lanski|al}!mhr) flames > /dev/null ----------------------------- From: Ian Dall Subject: Re: Killer Micro Question Date: 15 Nov 90 01:25:14 GMT To: unix-wizards@sem.brl.mil In article <16364@s.ms.uky.edu> randy@ms.uky.edu (Randy Appleton) writes: >But how does each user, who is about to log in, know which machine to >log into? He ought to log into the one with the lowest load average, yet >without logging on cannot determine which one that is. I do just that! I have a little shell script called "least-loaded" which grunges through the output of ruptime. So when X starts up it does "rsh `least-loaded ` ...." to start my clients. I also do this when I have a compute bound job to run. The only catch is that all servers need to be capable of running your job. We have several servers set up with NFS cross mounting so they are *almost* identical. You can get caught out sometimes though. Also, NFS imposes an additional overhead. Running a compute bound process this way is fine, running an IO bound process this way might be a bad idea if the disk it accesses is physically on another server. In short, I think it is a good idea, but it needs a more efficient distributed file system before I would want to release it on Joe User. It would be really nice to have a distributed OS which was able to migrate IO bound processes to minimise network traffic and migrate cpu bound processes to the least loaded machine. Dream on! -- Ian Dall life (n). A sexually transmitted disease which afflicts some people more severely than others. ----------------------------- From: Bob Devine Subject: Re: Killer Micro Question vs. mainframes Date: 15 Nov 90 19:14:50 GMT Followup-To: poster To: unix-wizards@sem.brl.mil John R. Levine writes: