Xref: utzoo sci.bio:3915 alt.romance:5455 soc.men:23766 soc.women:29920 soc.singles:73512 Path: utzoo!utgpu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!news From: rqdms@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (DENNIS STOCKERT) Newsgroups: sci.bio,alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <1990Nov18.214939.268@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> Date: 18 Nov 90 21:49:39 GMT References: <58975@microsoft.UUCP> <1990Nov14.005513.28667@massey.ac.nz> <1990Nov15.141028.25126@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> <1990Nov16.203058.7780@ariel.unm.edu> Reply-To: rqdms@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Lines: 49 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 In article <1990Nov16.203058.7780@ariel.unm.edu>, bevans@gauss.unm.edu (Mathemagician) writes... Quoting my prior followup to this thread: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Volumes of articles re: above >>>I for one do not quite understand all the hubbub... for me , centuries of >>>spontaneous non-monagamous behavior is enough to convince me that we are >>>** NOT ** naturally monogamous, and that monogamy where it exists is >>>largely a culturally-imposed phenomenon. Apologies if this seems too >>>simplistic to Netters at large... :-) > >Well, I disagree. > >For me, centuries of spontaneous monogamous behaviour is enough to >convince me that SOME of us ARE naturally monogamous and that >promiscuity, where it exists in SOME, is largely a culturally >imposed phenomenon. > >Apologies if this seems to simplistic to Netters at large. > >-- An extremely clever way to make an invalid point, Brian ... Point one: Both polygamy and adultery have, at times, been outlawed in monogamous cultures... if illegality isn't cultural imposition, I don't know what is..... animal species that mate for life do so spontaneously without legislation. Polygamous cultures, on the other hand, have not felt a comparable need to outlaw monogamy. Point two: The percentage of married (American) men that have had affairs has been shown, I believe, to be something like 75-80% ... somewhat lower for women. Of the remaining 20-25%, some number probably refrain from affairs due to guilt, fear of others' opinions of them, divorce, financial upheaval, etc. These are extremely high numbers to discount if one attempts to argue that we are naturally monomagous creatures. Finally, your own choice of phrases -- "SOME of us are naturally monomagous" -- implies a minority. Nice chatting with you... *********************************************************************** * Dennis Stockert * The meek shall inherit the earth; * * rqdms@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov * the rest of us will go to the stars * ****************************************** Aviation Week ************** * No one that knows me would mistake my opinions for those of * * any respectable organization * ***********************************************************************