Xref: utzoo sci.bio:3940 alt.romance:5535 soc.men:23789 soc.women:29962 soc.singles:73772 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!crdgw1!uunet!comp.vuw.ac.nz!cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!A.S.Chamove From: A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove) Newsgroups: sci.bio,alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.singles Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <1990Nov23.015509.14871@massey.ac.nz> Date: 23 Nov 90 01:55:09 GMT References: <1990Oct24.175532.9407@pmafire.UUCP> <15490@netcom.UUCP> <1990Oct26.000754.24765@odin.corp.sgi.com> <4836@lure.latrobe.edu.au> <1990Nov22.191009.20772@watserv1.waterloo.edu> Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand Lines: 37 X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2.2 If instinctive behaviour is only vestigial in humans then why do we still breathe when we are asleep, why do children commonly bond with their parents, why is sex so important, et cetera. The whole science of Sociobiology suggests that instinctive behaviour is very important (but not exclusive of cultural effects). Humans are not naturally computer users but the format used by computers is controlled by "human nature". If computers communicated to us in binary, we would find this difficult to learn and understand. Chimps are not naturally American Sign Language users, but they can learn and can teach it to their children. Dogs are not naturally Seeing Eye Dog "users" but they can be taught. Horses do not naturally jump 7-foot fences, but.... If natural becomes equated with good, than that is the fault of a poor educational system. It is not natural to eat foods that your parent did not eat; it is not natural to avoid mating with first cousins (indeed it is natural to find them the MOST attractive of sexual partners); it is not natural to not steal or lie; etc. Monkeys such as marmosets, tamarins, gibbons (apes of course), and many birds are naturally monogamous. Non-monogamous behaviour is Very Rarely observed. The males of these species can impregnate as many fertile females as they can have sex with, but there is no evolutionary advantage for them to do so (and they do not!) probably because the female needs the help of the male/father to rear the offspring. Normally in large animals, the female does not need the help of the male to rear the offspring and they are rarely monogamous (see for example chimpanzees, gorillas, all large monkeys (larger than a cat). THis does not seem to be true of large birds (largest is the monogamous swan). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Arnold Chamove Massey University Psychology Palmerston North, New Zealand