Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watserv1!alternat From: alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Message-ID: <1990Nov23.172523.15769@watserv1.waterloo.edu> Date: 23 Nov 90 17:25:23 GMT References: <1990Oct24.175532.9407@pmafire.UUCP> <15490@netcom.UUCP> <1990Oct26.000754.24765@odin.corp.sgi.com> <4836@lure.latrobe.edu.au> <1990Nov22.191009.20772@watserv1.waterloo.edu> <1990Nov23.015509.14871@massey.ac.nz> <14977@cs.utexas.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 48 In article <14977@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes: >----- >In article <1990Nov23 >.015509.14871@massey.ac.nz> A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove) writes: >> If instinctive behaviour is only vestigial in humans then why >> do we still breathe when we are asleep ... > >Breathing is not an instinct, but rather, a reflex. Behavior >that is but one instance of a broad range that is possible to >human nature, but whose instances are supported or suppressed by >human culture, falls on the other side of what is instinctive. > >A pregnant cat's search for an out of the way place to bear >kittens is an instinct. It is not reflexive: if all of the out >of the way places available to her are unusable, she will give >birth in the open. The cat's behavior is not cultural: she does >not have to learn it from other cats. There are few human >behaviors that fall between these parameters. A child's bonding >to the adults who care for the child may be one such. > >Russell I disagree with this definition of 'instinctive' because I find it too exclusive. I think that most people realize that all our behaviours from early in childhood are a mixture of hereditary predispositions and tendencies on the one hand and on the other learned behavior. To me it is fair enough to call a behaviour 'instinctive' is if we have evidence of an inherited pre-disposition towards the behaviour, ie.if we tend towards it and find it easier or more rewarding to do than not do the instinctive behaviour. After all, even animal behaviour that we think of as instinctive has a learned component supporting it. Cats, for instance, usually cannot hunt unless taught by their mothers although all cats have a tendency to chase objects of a certain shape and movement, but have to be taught the proper kill method. Chimp maternal behaviour instinct collapses if the baby chimp is not properly mothered. If separated from its mother in its infancy a female chimp grows unable to mother. Chimps, and probably other animals as well not yet studied, need to learn mothering by the experience of being mothered otherwise their indisputable predisposition to mother is not supported and does not develop properly. In other words, the fact that instinct and learning go hand in hand in humans does not set us apart from other animals. ann hodgins