Xref: utzoo sci.space:25590 sci.space.shuttle:6628 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!ukma!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eagle!news From: tohall@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Dave Hall (Sverdrup)) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: New Shuttle Engines Message-ID: <1990Nov16.175907.18177@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> Date: 16 Nov 90 17:59:07 GMT References: <10948@milton.u.washington.edu> <1990Nov13.190528.5893@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Nov14.071003.24567@cimage.com> Reply-To: tohall@mars.lerc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center Lines: 18 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4 In article <1990Nov14.071003.24567@cimage.com>, gregc@cimage.com (Greg Cronau) writes... > >I can understand why reviving the Saturn program would be damn near impossible, >but what problems were encountered with reviving just the F-1 engine program? In addition to lost documentation and tooling costs, two areas I am aware of are: 1) Air pollution. The F-1 burns LOX and kerosene, producing a smoky hydrocarbon exhaust. Not popular with environmentalists, especially in S. California where the Rocketdyne test labs are located. 2) F-1 production test facilities were located in the San Fernando valley (turbopumps at Rocketdyne/Santa Susana) and Edwards AFB (full-up engine tests). These facilities are way past the inactive stage - they have been either torn down or become completely derelict. You are talking 100's of millions of dollars (IMHO) to refurbish them.