Xref: utzoo sci.space:25671 sci.space.shuttle:6645 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!boulder!serre From: serre@boulder.Colorado.EDU (SERRE GLENN) Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle Subject: Sea Level RL-10s (was Re: New Shuttle Engines) Summary: Would need (minor?) mods for startup. Message-ID: <30004@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Date: 19 Nov 90 19:47:37 GMT References: <11236@milton.u.washington.edu> <1990Nov16.211340.27611@zoo.toronto.edu> Sender: news@boulder.Colorado.EDU Reply-To: serre@tramp.Colorado.EDU (SERRE GLENN) Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 26 Nntp-Posting-Host: tramp.colorado.edu In article <1990Nov16.211340.27611@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes: >A badly overexpanded nozzle causes the gas flow to break away from the >nozzle wall before reaching the end, which causes all manner of nasty >turbulence and problems of various kinds. The SSME nozzles are in fact There is, however, one good effect from separation in an overexpanded nozzle: If the flow didn't separate (which it usually does at ~0.4 times ambient) then the exit pressure would be even lowe, resulting in a greater loss of thrust (compared to the separated case). >>to adapting the RL-10 to operate at sea level. Is this a good example of >In principle, all you need is a shorter nozzle, although you have to think >about things like the effect on the cooling system. There may be some >issues in ignition, too. Since the RL-10 "bootstraps" on ignition (uses energy from tank pressurization to spin-up the turbines), you'd have to pressurize the fuel and ox tanks to about 20 lbs/in2 over atmospheric (for the Centaur G-prime RL-10s). I can't imagine that this would be a problem, though. Trivia and ramblings from --Glenn Serre gaserre@nyx.cs.du.edu (serre@tramp.colorado.edu will disappear soon. :-( )