Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: uunet!arris!rshapiro@ncar.ucar.EDU (Richard Shapiro) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: Female human aesthetics Message-ID: <1990Nov17.155213.23767@arris.com> Date: 17 Nov 90 19:31:52 GMT References: <8654@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <658245246@lear.cs.duke.edu> <1990Nov11.171709.25842@arris.com> <1990Nov16.161821.17287@iti.org> Organization: ARRIS Pharmaceutical, Cambridge, MA Lines: 42 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu In article <1990Nov16.161821.17287@iti.org> uunet!mailrus!sharkey!hela!iti.org!dhw@ncar.ucar.EDU ("David H. West") writes: >It's quite unclear to me that there is any power difference > [between being the looker and being the object of the look] > in "everyday life", the spectatee is free to spectate right back This is a typical "free will" argument, and suffers the usual difficulties. Human beings are not autonomous, independent subjects. We are utterly social creatures: our very sense of self, our subjectivity, is highly constrained by the various social groups to which we belong. This has long been one of the crucial, and central, arguments of feminism and the study of gender. The "freedom" you describe is illusory. >, and in >situations like cinema and fashion shows, the spectatee is being paid >to do a job, but not by the spectators, who, though they pay for the >right to spectate, have no direct control over the spectatees. What's the relevance of this? The point is: the position of being a spectator is, like most social positions, gendered. This is not to say that only men can be spectators; it is to say the spectator position has long been a "masculine" position. Even a cursory look at classic Hollywood cinema will make the gendering obvious: the photography, lighting, camera angles etc that are used when the camera (the original spectator) looks at the female lead are quite different from the photography etc used when the camera looks at the male lead. The woman is *displayed*, the man is neutrally depicted. This is simply one aspect of the general tendency to display images of women as spectacles. There are many others (strip shows, pornography, cosmetics and fashion, etc). There are a few general cases of male spectacle (sporting events come to mind), but these are notable for being exceptions. There's an undeniable social fact, at least in this country: women are FAR more conscious of their appearance than men are of theirs. The gendered nature of spectacle helps to explain why this should be so, and also suggests that this is important ground for feminism. Ending women's status as objects rather than subjects, the object seen rather than the seeing subject, must involve consideration of women's own self-identity, insofar as that identity is formed according to gendered positions of spectator and spectacle.