Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: arm@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Alexander d Macalalad) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: There is no God... Message-ID: Date: 19 Nov 90 08:37:43 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 20 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article v064kh44@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeffrey A Schulz) writes: > There's no God, there's no Ghosts, and there's a perfectly rational > explanation for any kind of physical phenomena you might encounter. Two points. First, if by "rational" you mean "logical axiomatic proofs" then it has already been shown, most eloquently by Godel's incompleteness theorem, that there are "truths" of an axiomatic system which cannot be proven within that system. More simply, even in pure math truths exist which cannot be proven. Second, if by rational you mean something reasonable, in the sense that it doesn't go against anything we already know, then to many, including me, God is a perfectly rational explanation for lots of phenomena that are encountered. > However, there is good money to be made in television ministries. I think you'd starve. :-) Alex Macalalad