Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!ucsd!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!bu.edu!husc6!m2c!wpi.WPI.EDU!omar.wpi.edu!shari From: isaac@goanna.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Isaac Balbin) Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam Subject: Re: Differences of a Muslim with Israel! Message-ID: <1990Nov22.183503.4558@wpi.WPI.EDU> Date: 22 Nov 90 18:35:03 GMT References: <1990Nov14.113459.9292@nntp-server.caltech.edu> Sender: news@wpi.WPI.EDU (News) Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute Lines: 82 Approved: shari@wpi.wpi.edu Originator: shari@omar.wpi.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: omar.wpi.edu mughal@iago.caltech.edu (Mughal, Asim) writes: >You see actually it pertains to this newsgroup. In my previouw >note I mentioned that Islam's holy scripture Quran, mentions >that Muslims should fight those who drive Muslims ou >of there homes. Muslims (the followers of Islam) all over >the world (about one billion) do generally believe >(you may make a survey if you disagree) that Falasteen >is occupied by the so called state of Israel. Are you saying that there is an *Islamic* entity called Falasteen? How large does Islam say it should be? Does Islam say that Jordan is also Falasteen? Or doesn't it matter that King Hussein isn't as devout as you would want him to be. What indeed defines ``a Muslim home.'' Somewhere they have lived before? How far back does one go? Hasn't Saddam Hussein driven Kuwaiti's out of their homes? Is it okay because Saddam is slightly aligned with Islam? Is this a racial thing? What about an agnostic Arab---can they be driven out of their homes? >It means exactly what it says. An eye for an eye, a tooth for >a tooth. Literally? Someone just said that it doesn't. I asked for sources. >What two religions are you referring to without >mentioning their names? Christianity and Judaism have different understanding of this, as I am sure you are aware. >I dont mean to go out of the SRI topic here and merely >want to mention the claim in Quran that the Jews are >not following the teachings of Moses peace be upon him, Moses killed an Arab who was burdening his people (see Genesis) Is that okay according to Islam? How much of Moses' teachings does Islam respect? >The Police manuals were written by authorities, given >authority by the elected leaders of Israel. Even >if the Police was working according to the manuals, that does >not relieve the state of Israel, the only country formed >in the name of Judaism and claims to have the official >religion Judaism, the teachings of Moses peace be upon him. Sorry. Israel does not claim to be a theocratic state. In the same way, is there any law that says that an Arab state must be an Islamic State? >And please do not pretend to be an authority in Islam as >to decide to recommend whether or not such a response >is Islamic in nature or not. I am sure the moderator is >fully aware of his esponsibilities. I do not pretend. I am not an authority on Islam. I don't know whether you are either. I asked questions to learn. You should be teaching if you are an authority. >> >No it is not. We cannot see the incidence by breaking >it into pieces wherever we like. I didn't come to discuss politics. Let it suffice to say that an analysis of anything, be it in religion or politics involves dissecting an analysing. >As far as I know, (and you may add to my knowledge Dr.) >no relegion persecutes believers of other religion. History tells us otherwise. You know that, I am sure. >It is the people who take the law of the Almighty in >their hands. Why should the Muslims move their Masjid >to other lands from where they are if there is no >danger to their Masjid? Wasn't this a danger? >Why should they have any fear >in a non-Muslim state? and why should they die? I agree that they *shouldn't* have anything to fear, but reality is that there is an increasing bad-will against Muslims the world over. It would appear that Saddam hasn't helped many moderate and responsible Muslims. -- ``A College degree is a right; not a privilege"