Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!crdgw1!uunet!comp.vuw.ac.nz!am.dsir.govt.nz!dsiramd!marcamd!mercury!fivegl!hugh From: hugh@fivegl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Chinese Room Experiment: empirical tests Message-ID: <1990Nov28.003642.22319@fivegl.co.nz> Date: 28 Nov 90 00:36:42 GMT References: <7852@uwm.edu> Reply-To: hugh@fivegl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson) Organization: 5GL International Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand Lines: 40 In article <7852@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) writes: >So here's what you should do: take out about 10 books written in a language you >don't understand (like 10 books written in Spanish). The language can be one >that uses the Latin alphabet, or not. It doesn't matter. > >Rewrite the exact contents of each book. That means, WRITE the contents, don't >analyse them. Don't even think about what it all might mean, just write it. >And write it all. > >This is what will happen. Within about 60 minutes your brain WILL begin to >adapt itself to the regularities of the language. In one day (supposing you >work about 8 hours that day), you will already have a good feel for the >syntax of the language. In about 3 to 5 days, you'll gradually begin to >recognize stylistic regularities. >... >After a week you will be able to reproduce very complex novel (and valid) >written segments in that language, though you may not have a glimmer of what >it all means. > >At this point, you'll find yourself in a very unusual position of being able >to recognize a new written language, and even being able to write in that >language, without having the faintest idea of what you're saying. > All the way through I was looking for the smilies... > >Trust me, it's a very weird feeling, I've tried something very similar to >this experiment a countless number of times. ...but now you have me interested. Don't leave us hanging here - what actually were the experiments you tried, and what were the results? What other history is there of such absorbtion techniques: for oral/written language, or for non-linguistic learning? -- | Hugh Grierson | hugh@fivegl.co.nz | 5GL International Ltd | PH: +64.9.3021621 | Auckland, New Zealand | FAX: +64.9.3021617