Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!agate!shelby!portia.stanford.edu!whirlwind.Stanford.EDU!lehr From: lehr@whirlwind.Stanford.EDU (Mike Lehr) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets Subject: Re: Backpropagation with Newton's Method, and recurrence. Source code. Message-ID: <1990Nov29.050147.4874@portia.Stanford.EDU> Date: 29 Nov 90 05:01:47 GMT References: <7684@uwm.edu> <3146@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> <7937@uwm.edu> Sender: news@portia.Stanford.EDU (USENET News System) Organization: Stanford University EE Dept. Lines: 22 In article <7937@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) writes: >In article <3146@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> landman@hanami.Eng.Sun.COM (Howard A. Landman) writes: >>>In article <1248@helens.Stanford.EDU> wan@isl.Stanford.EDU (Eric A. Wan) writes: >>>>You mention the method does not work well for f(x) = x^2. In fact, Newton's >>>>Method applied to the gradient of x^2 converges in one step. >> >>In article <7684@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins) writes: >>>You lost me here. Try using Newton's method to find a zero of x^2. >> >>The gradient of x^2 is 2x. > >Hence the iteration formula: > > x[n+1] = x[n] - f(x[n])/f'(x[n]) = 1/2*x[n]. > >So Newton's Method applied to x^2 converges only as slowly as the Method of >Bisection. The original article wasn't talking about using Netwon's Method >on the gradient of x^2, but on x^2. We all give up. -M. Lehr, F. Beaufays, E. Wan, S. Piche