Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!pmafire!uudell!milano!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!exodus!exodus-bb!khb From: khb@chiba.Eng.Sun.COM (Keith Bierman fpgroup) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: In What Sense is Sun the "First" Open Systems Manufacturer? Message-ID: Date: 21 Nov 90 20:46:34 GMT References: <1990Nov16.225515.494@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Nov20.195623.28061@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <2940@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> <1990Nov21.194240.28355@N Sender: news@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM Organization: Sun MegaSystems Lines: 31 In-reply-to: andy@Theory.Stanford.EDU's message of 21 Nov 90 19:42:40 GMT In article <1990Nov21.194240.28355@Neon.Stanford.EDU> andy@Theory.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes: Either IBM's lawyers are worse than almost every other manufacturers, Far better than most. They fought hard and lost. Don't forget the large number of anti-trust cases (including the one with CDC .... which was settled out of court by yeilding an entire IBM division to CDC). or IBM allowed the 360/370 clone makers to exist..... I don't know whether or not IBM will license its software to run on After suits, yes. It was the great unbundling war. Note that there isn't a VMS clone for non-Dec vaxen. Note that there WAS. At least one, Elxsi. I vaguely recall at least one other, but they too are history. It may be in IBM's best interests, but I wonder why other computer companies don't see things the same way. Other companies use other journals. There is one for DEC. There are normal journals, like those of IEEE and ACM. IBM is large and produtive enough to keep a mill going full time ;> -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Keith H. Bierman kbierman@Eng.Sun.COM | khb@chiba.Eng.Sun.COM SMI 2550 Garcia 12-33 | (415 336 2648) Mountain View, CA 94043