Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: DREUBEN@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Douglas Scott Reuben) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: The "Bell" Logo Message-ID: <14977@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 28 Nov 90 03:25:53 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 60 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 848, Message 2 of 12 Hi- John Higdon posted about use of the old Bell System logo among the RBOCs: I know NYNEX (New York Tel and New England Tel) uses the Bell in its logo, as do the individual operating companies of NY Tel and New England Tel. (And their Mobile division, occasionally...) An employee at NE Tel told me a few years ago that NYNEX wanted to get rid of the Bell logo wherever the word "NYNEX" appears, but so far they don't seem to have implemented this yet. SNET (Southern New England Tel, NOT part of NYNEX, thankfully!), doesn't use the Bell logo anymore (although it has replaced it with a cheap copy), but their mobile division (SONECOR? or is it SNET-Mobilcom?) still uses the Bell on some of their literature, probably to distinguish it from Metro Mobile, the "A" cellular carrier. (They are not an "RBOC", nor in one.) Bell Atlantic (C&P Tel, Diamond State Tel, Bell of PA, NJ Bell, more?) still uses the Bell symbol on all of its divisions, ie, "Bell Atlantic" the RBOC, all of the local Bells, and the mobile division. Bell South (well, ok, whatever the Bell is in New Orleans - South Central Bell?) also seems to use the logo, although I am not sure what the mobile division uses. I'm not sure about Ameritech (Midwest) as a whole, but I THINK the payphones at O'Hare and Midway said Illinois Bell and had the Bell logo next to it. (This was six months ago, so maybe it changed.) Don't know if "Ameritech" the RBOC uses it, though. US West (at least the ex-Pacific Northwest Bell BOC) USED to use it, until maybe about January, 1990. I have a Bend, Oregon directory from 1989, and it has the logo, but the newer 1990-1991 book does not. If I remember correctly, there was a small passage in the newer book stating that PNB was changing its name to "US West", or something to that effect. As to Pac*Bell, well, they kept the word "Bell", but I guess the like the highly original asterisk symbol a lot better! :-) (They must have searched REALLY hard for that logo! "Gee ... let's use one of the buttons on the phone!") Interestingly, I see a lot of their products in stores (phones, answering machines, etc.) that say "Pac*Tel" and have the Bell logo next to it, but I don't see it anywhere else. (There is also some other company, maybe it is Northwestern Bell?, that has a logo "Bell Phones" in bold type and a Bell logo next to it. There is also Southwestern Bell, which has the standard SWB/Bell logo ... nothing new there.) Anyone know what Cincinnati Bell (not a "real" BOC, and certainly not an RBOC) uses? Maybe they borrowed SNET's! (or more likely, SNET borrowed Cincinnati Bell's! :-) ) Doug dreuben@eagle.wesleyan.edu dreuben@wesleyan.bitnet