Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!linac!uwm.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!bionet!hayes.ims.alaska.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: covert@covert.enet.dec.com (John R. Covert 27-Nov-1990 0921) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Hackers Break Into DEA Lines Message-ID: <14995@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 28 Nov 90 01:36:57 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: TELECOM Digest Lines: 18 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 849, Message 8 of 10 >Thackeray estimated in a recent Chronicle interview that PBX abuse >will cost industry $500 million this year. According to her formulas, >the DEA hackers may have used service worth $100,000 or more during >each of the 18 months in which the agency's phone system was >compromised. $100,000 in a month seems to be a little high. Considering that a full rate call to anywhere in the 48 states costs at most 25 cents a minute, recalling that FTS restricts international calling, and not taking the night and evening discount periods into account or the savings the government gets having a private network (in other words, considering each minute to be worth 25 cents), it would require 400,000 minutes of usage to cost $100,000. That's more than nine hackers on the lines 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Unlikely. john