Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!haven!uvaarpa!murdoch!astsun7.astro.Virginia.EDU!gl8f From: gl8f@astsun7.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) Newsgroups: comp.groupware Subject: Re: Consensus Journals:Nonexistent journals based upon peer consensus Message-ID: <1990Nov28.035143.7704@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: 28 Nov 90 03:51:43 GMT References: <18637@ultima.socs.uts.edu.au> <1990Nov21.011445.13274@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <18657@ultima.socs.uts.edu.au> Sender: news@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia Lines: 30 In article <18657@ultima.socs.uts.edu.au> jim@ultima.socs.uts.edu.au (Jim Underwood) writes: >It seems to me that groupware will be more useful if it supports quite a >different model of discussion. Draft articles would be criticised, >supported, provisionally amended and otherwise discussed by named persons. >(Named so that regular contributors would get an idea of each other's >views and values). Eventually a small subgroup would form which would >"run" with the article and beat it into its final form. Other subgroups >might produce opposing articles. From time to time the discussion group >would split and completely independent groups form. Other groups might >merge. Of course it might be hard for authors to "own" ideas, but that's >another problem. Well, this is fine if you're looking at something as static as a typical journal. It would take quite a while for an article to see the light of day. Most usenet newsgroups, on the other hand, work on quite quick turn-around and produce some quite interesting information. >The trouble with statistical or any other automated form of moderation >(the expert system editor?) is that they objectify the relationships >among the group members, and these relationships are exactly what makes >the group work. However, if the object is to produce something like a well-moderated comp.unix.wizards newsgroup, such methods might provide a way do get the articles out quickly. Your idea of groupware would never work for such a group. Different problems have different solutions. Too bad nobody has a prototype for each.