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Subject: Atari ST Public Domain L&P F83 FORTH ?
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Date: 25 Nov 90 03:07:42 GMT
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Category 1,  Topic 37
Message 8         Thu Nov 22, 1990
J.SANFORD1                   at 20:50 MST
 
     It seems after my "small is beautiful" diatribe, It is only
natural that the next file to examine is # 769 F68KST11.arc.
After unpacking the resulting "advanced Forth programming system" had
to be spread over 2 disks > 600K on each!  While it is not what I am
looking for, it's instructional value is considerable. Many words and
concepts that i've puzzled over in Forth dimentions are illustrated.
Also lots more stuff way over my head.  Yet I admire it's 
100% Forthrightiousness. -  There is a 12 page document -
explaining that is a personal software development system, and the
author, Loren Craymer, presents it as a "works in progress" to show
how some of the concepts under discusion in the comunity could be
implemented. He recommends a vendor supported system to those who may
require support.
    I am not qualified to really revue this system. Output to the
printer is no problem ( tho condensed mode is being narowed down to my
problem) finding shadow screens is no problem even after fooling
around with words.  I didn't understand the 32 bit, bit. My joke is "
you have to rename push & pop to blow & suck". I figgure a computer
thats more than half full of zeros isn't working hard enough. But ..
doing calculations on monster numbers, no sweat, IS impressive.
    I am beginning to regret sort of backing off in my last mess.
about software patents, we may wish it was a joke! Read Nov.Dr.Dobb's
editorial and article " Software Patents" it is scary!!!
    The Forth that was conceptualy sold to me was a "Grass roots
movement" remember? The language itself was put in the Public Domain
by it's creator.   I can read between the lines that vendors have been
putting preasure on, ...  Well now there may be bigger things at
stake.  later - jon -
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