Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!cbfsb!cbnewsc!tjr From: tjr@cbnewsc.att.com (thomas.j.roberts) Subject: Re: File protection in MS-DOS Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Date: Thu, 29 Nov 90 21:30:50 GMT Message-ID: <1990Nov29.213050.26680@cbnewsc.att.com> References: <1990Nov29.184157.25548@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> Lines: 58 From article <1990Nov29.184157.25548@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu>, by devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder): > In article <6@curano.acadch.com> rudolf@curano.acadch.com (Rudolf Kuenzli) writes: >>In article <3920@male.EBay.Sun.COM> briantr@sunnet.EBay.Sun.COM (Brian Tran) writes: >>>Hi there, >>> >>> We have a Wyse386 which are being shared by other users. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I have other private programs/data that I don't >>> want other users to read or delete. >>> >>> How can I protect my directory in MS-DOS (mine is 3.3) ? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>brian >> >>Try with 'Secret-Disk' from Lattice. It will take a part of your hard >>disk partition (you will decide how much) and create a logical >>partition. The whole partition will be encrypted that means empty tracks >>too. If you have let's say a drive C: before, you will have >>addtionnallyy a drive D:. You may turn on/off that disk as you like. >>Turning on the disk means that you will have to enter the passsword you >>did use for the encyption of the partition. There is a resident module >>load from 'config.sys' when you boot the system. You may work on your >>secret drive like on a normal drive. >>I am using 'Secret Disk' for years now and don't have one complaint. >> >>Rudolf BEWARE! If someone really wants your data, Secret-Disk can be broken easily by a knowledgeable person (I evaluated it for possible use, but abandoned it after I broke its protection in less than an hour). Strong computer security is a difficult problem - the Department of Defense Computer Security Center has levels of trust for computer systems, but NO useful systems have been evaluated at the higher levels of trust (B2 and up). In particular, PCs have special problems because of their usual lack of physical security. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE STRONG COMPUTER SECURITY WITHOUT EQUALLY STRONG PHYSICAL SECURITY. It may not be necessary to lock up the entire PC, but some PHYSICAL device must be locked up in order to obtain strong security. In this sense, Secret-Disk is attempting the impossible, and predictably fails. For many users, programs such as Secret-Disk may be sufficient, for those of us interested in the theoretical aspects of computer security, and those interested in REAL security, such naive approaches are a joke. Beware, however, of approaches which seem to provide security, but in fact don't. To repeat: ANY SECURITY SYSTEM WHICH DOES NOT HAVE A PHYSICAL DEVICE UNDER PHYSICAL PROTECTION CANNOT PROVIDE REAL SECURITY. The usual approach is to use PCs with only removeable media, and to lock them up when not in use, and to keep the (media-less) PC in a controlled environment where nobody can change EPROMs or other hardware without being observed. For many users, such efforts are not warranted. Tom Roberts att!ihlpl!tjrob TJROB@IHLPL.ATT.COM