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From: manes@vger.nsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Ease of Amiga Vision (Review, sort of...)
Message-ID: <298.274f12af@vger.nsu.edu>
Date: 25 Nov 90 04:39:11 GMT
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In article <3672@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes:
> skank@iastate.edu (Skank George L) writes:
>> This is one powerfull program, but don't take my word
>>for it, try it for yourselves.  :)
> 
> And you only need THREE Megs (recommended) to use it! Isn't that great?

They recommend 3 megs, but depending on your reliance on graphics it 
only needs 2 megabytes to 'author' a AmigaVision program.

> 
> Does anyone else think that Amigavision looks like a HOG? Ok raise your
> hands, how many of you have 3 megs or more? one, two, three, .....
> Hmm I only see about 10-15% of Amiga users having that much memory. 

I have 3 megs... hand is raised!

> 
> WHY WHY WHY??? CanDo seems to do almost as much as AmigaVision and it works
> just fine with 1 Meg. How well does AmigaVision work with just 1 meg?

Because they are not the same program, nor do they do the same things.

Cando has a rotten user interface, you get lost in a maze of twisty menu's
all alike, further you *must* learn a script language in order to make 
proper use of it.

If you are just running a lesson, AmigaVision works fine in 1 meg.

> 
> Not that I really care that a program uses that much memory, especially
> if it has lots of features, but I was under the impression that the
> reason AmigaVision was developed was to give Amiga Owners a simple and
> easy to use programming environment. something that would become a standard
> and every Amiga owner would have and could use, Like HyperCard is on the
> Apple. But I doubt that that many Amiga owners will have 3 Megs of memory
> or more any time in the near future. 
> 

Where did you get that impression?  To me, AmigaVision is a answer to
the multimedia needs of the professional.  It has direct control for
Laser Disk as well as Dbase III support, neither feature that CanDo has.

I think that the more the user gets into 'his/her' amiga, the more 
memory they will have.  Certainly has worked that way for most of the
folks that I know.

> 
> 
> And I wish it had a compile mode, so you could make stand alone programs
> that anyone could run, and not have to have AmigaVision to run it. CanDo
> can do that, also. 

CanDo, produces psuedo-code like stuff.  You still need the Cando.library
or you need to compile it in.  You mean to say you wish AmigaVision hid
the fact that it is a 'interpeter' like CanDo does.

I have both programs, CanDo, though interesting will not work with databases,
nor does it appreciate laser disks.  I believe that each product answers
a different marketplaces problems.

I see no comparison.

> 
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