Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.iastate.edu!geff From: geff@iastate.edu (Underwood Geoffrey Dale) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Sorry Guys, There is NO WAY! Summary: NeXT has gotten much better this year Keywords: AMIGA 3000 vs NEXT Message-ID: <1990Nov30.202110.7368@news.iastate.edu> Date: 30 Nov 90 20:21:10 GMT References: <1990Nov30.021537.1042@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> <16321@brahms.udel.edu> <1990Nov30.154227.10380@intelhf.hf.intel.com> Sender: news@news.iastate.edu (USENET News System) Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA Lines: 48 In article <1990Nov30.154227.10380@intelhf.hf.intel.com> griff@anvil.intel.com (Richard Griffith) writes: >[ stuff deleted ] >> take a look at the Amiga 3000 ux. A magazine article said it came with 8 >> megs of RAM, a 100 meg HD, Unix (real unix like the NeXT) a 25 Mhz 68030, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ No, Real UNIX - >you know, AT&T authorized - not Mach - a unix-like clone. Mach is NOT UNIX! Mach isn't UNIX, true. In fact, it isn't _any_ operating system. UNIX has a filesystem. Mach does not. Mach is _part_ of NeXT's UNIX, and NeXT's whole UNIX does indeed use AT&T code. If you really want to, you can program the NeXT as if it were just another 68040 box running 4.3BSD. Anybody who does this is ignoring some of the main advantages of the NeXT, but it is possible. >> two C compilers and other stuff (I think a mono monitor) for $4000. > ^^^^^ >gee, for that I can get 4 amiga systems (ok, they're 500's...:-) If an Amiga 500 can do the job, then it is wasteful to buy a NeXT. If an Amiga 500 can do the job, then it is wasteful to buy an Amiga 3000. If an Amiga 500 can do the job, then it is wasteful to buy a Cray Y-MP. So what? Has somebody claimed otherwise? >> The NeXT and the Amiga are definetly the top two in price performance. > 1. If Jobs ever decides to drop his prices. Drop his prices? If you compare list price to list price, or educational discount to educational discount, the 68040 NeXTstation and the 68030 Amiga 3000 are already in the same range. At some schools (and maybe list price; I've forgotten the precise list prices), the NeXT is actually _cheaper_! > 2. If Postscript interpeted screens ever start *really* screaming... How much speed do you need? If the NeXTdimension board's i860 isn't fast enough for the task at hand, then neither is the Amiga's chipset. >> >> >> -- >> Collin Douglas | "We demand rigidly defined areas >of doubt >> | and uncertainty." >> cbdougla@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu | >> America Online: CollinD | -Douglas Adams from Hitchhiker's Guide > >:Richard E. Griffith, "griff" : iNTEL, Hillsboro Ore. >:griff@anvil.hf.intel.com >:SCA!: Cyrus Hammerhand, Household of the Golden Wolf, Dragons' Mist, An Tir >:These are MY opinions, if iNTEL wanted them, They'd pay for `em! Geff Underwood geff@iastate.edu