Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!dali.cs.montana.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!wuarchive!usc!apple!agate!darkstar!ucscb.UCSC.EDU!unknown From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: new apple IIs... Message-ID: <9595@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Date: 30 Nov 90 20:56:20 GMT References: <9011301831.AA08600@apple.com> Sender: usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing Lines: 27 In <9011301831.AA08600@apple.com> $CSD211@LSUVM.BITNET (Mark Orr) writes: >| As much as I don't like to say it, there's already a "modern >|computer built with the 'values' that made the II a success". >| I think the Amiga fits that bill pretty well... So even I, >(When I said "values" I didn't mean human values but rather hardware-design >values...the erroneous reports that the Amiga is a hackers' machine >notwithstanding) First, a nitpick. PLEASE, when you quote me (or anyone else, I'd say but that's their right to bicker or not bicker), leave the attribution line in! I just think it's annoying to be quoted and not be given "credit" (not quite the right connotation of what I mean) for it. Second, I meant 'human' values... Meaning what we mean by the "hackability" of a machine. I don't often go defending the Amiga, it just seems (from my admittedly limited experience with it) to have the "hackability" quality more so than IBM PCs or Macs... Why do you call the reports that the Amiga is a hackers' machine erroneous? While I would call them sort of traitorous, it sure seems that a lot of former Apple II users have gone to the Amiga rather than the Mac or PC world. -- /Apple II(GS) Forever! unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu MAIL ME FOR INFO ABOUT CHEAP CDs\ |WRITE TO ORIGIN ABOUT ULTIMA VI //e and IIGS! Mail me for addresses, & info. | \ "Dammit Bev, is it you inside or is it the clown?" -IT by Stephen King /