Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!usc!apple!portal!cup.portal.com!Jake-S From: Jake-S@cup.portal.com (Jake G Schwartz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds Subject: Re: Saturn Mnemonics Message-ID: <36353@cup.portal.com> Date: 30 Nov 90 01:32:36 GMT References: <2470002@hparc0.HP.COM> <421@lysator.liu.se> <12098@life.ai.mit.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 26 I wholeheartedly agree with Graham Fraser's comments regarding HP's Saturn mnemonics for one reason, which simply is - if the HP folks who wrote the calculator and who read these postings can readily understand (without having to learn another set of mnemonics) what people are talking about, they probably will participate more actively. Yes, the new set of mnemonics are easier to learn and easier to manipulate, etc, but these new ones were written by people who did it for fun, hobby, etc. These guys at Corvallis had to live with the original mnemonics because it's their jobs. I'm sure they don't all take their jobs home with them and think about this stuff 24 hours a day. The last thing they'd probably want to do is to learn something simply to be able to understand what the extreme hard core hobbyists are doing. However, I'm sure that if they read a posting that contained both a listing in new mnemonics AND HP mnemonics, then these guys could pick it up right a way, and perhaps would be more apt to jump in and help out. This is precisely what Bill Wickes suggested on the evening of November 11th when he visited us at the Philadelphia Area HP user group meeting. I don't think anyone is suggesting abandoning the great work that Alonzo and others have done to make the CPU instructions more readily understood; I'm just suggesting we give the Corvallis people a chance to understand what's going on without forcing them to jump through some unnecessary hoops. We'll all benefit from their participation in this arena, no matter how much people feel it's more macho to go off and discover the "goodies" on their own. I personally would rather have this material handed to me rather than to go out and get it myself. Jake Schwartz