Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!autodesk!glang From: glang@Autodesk.COM (Gary Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Next, 40, Sparc, 2 Message-ID: <850@autodesk.COM> Date: 25 Nov 90 18:45:25 GMT References: <1990Nov12.135515@Atherton.COM> <11090@pt.cs.cmu.edu> <30017@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA Lines: 21 In-reply-to: fozzard@alumni.colorado.edu's message of 19 Nov 90 22:58:18 GMT >[3] "and with a crapola interface" >Again, I must doubt that you've used OpenWindows. It is in many ways Maybe he hasn't. But I have, and it's crap, and there's little available for it in the way of applications. I use it every day at work, and when I come home at night to my NeXT I breath a sigh of relief. How many useful applications that run on the Sun are actually OW apps? 1-2-3? No. dBASE? no. Island Graphics' stuff is about it. How many useful apps run on the cube that use NeXTStep? Answer - all of them. If you're running OpenWindows on a Macintosh, you're doing it in an X Window which is hardly a mainstream application of this technology. What we're concerned with here in the NeXT world is not niche engineering applications but general purpose horizontal applications like those found on the mac and the PC, used by average users - not techies. The latter make up the majority of Sun's market and always will (refer tio the abortive attempts to get into mainstream applications by Sun - Solaris et al). If climate simulations aren't a "niche" application what in the hell is? - g