Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!van-bc!ubc-cs!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!mouse From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Boycott 68040 upgrades that include Lotus Improv Message-ID: <1990Nov26.022638.20419@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> Date: 26 Nov 90 02:26:38 GMT References: <1990Oct31.020635.5916@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines Lines: 36 In article <1990Oct31.020635.5916@midway.uchicago.edu>, gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu writes: > In article <1990Oct31.012615.19372@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, gcarter@globey.cs.wisc.edu (Gregory Carter) writes... >> I think the key to the Lotus fiasco is the point that, we as >> software designers MUST use reusable materials to be able to >> economically produce software. You cannot do this within the >> copyright system. Its impossible. Not quite. In the patent system it would be. Copyright mechanisms do not keep you from using independent-but-identical code (though you may have trouble proving it to be independent). >> Either licensing fees will kill you or the legal fondu will surely >> make it impossible to make a profit. > Regardless of Next's success, if your claim is that you have to use > other people's copyrighted work to create new and useful products, > then I would say that you may have difficulty in your software > creation in the future. Exactly. >> [...] money hungry grubbing people like Lotus [...] > Or money hungry people like Apple. Or Next. True. > Or the corner grocer. Invalid compaison. The grocer is selling material goods, not pure information. (What's the difference? If I give you an orange, I don't have it afterwards. If I give you a program, I do.) der Mouse old: mcgill-vision!mouse new: mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu