Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!exodus!boise.Eng.Sun.COM!wsb From: wsb@boise.Eng.Sun.COM (Walt Brainerd) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: Price of DWB 3.1 Message-ID: <3691@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 29 Nov 90 17:26:46 GMT References: <1990Nov5.022533.29625@nixtdc.uucp> <16706@letni.UUCP> <1990Nov28.193202.19684@cbnewsl.att.com> Sender: news@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM Lines: 32 In article <1990Nov28.193202.19684@cbnewsl.att.com>, npn@cbnewsl.att.com (nils-peter.nelson) writes: > > ... I've been unable to > get the attention of anyone at Sun and the others, but IBM now bundles DWB 2.0 with their 6000 system. Others will bundle some old version of troff with SVR4. Suppose one of these companies decided they wanted to bundle DWB 3.1 instead. According to my reading of the sublicensing agreement, they must pay AT&T a royalty of max ($120, 1% x system price, 10% x DWB price), with a maximum of $750 for each binary distributed. Suppose that next year this company ships 50,000 workstations selling for $20,000 each (a little low for Sun and perhaps IBM). They then owe royalties of 1% x $2B = $20M. I suppose AT&T might work out a better deal than the standard volume discounts, but maybe this explains why you haven't been able to get their attention. It's great that we all agree that ditroff, though creaky, is still a nice thing to have around. The problem is that not many people are willing to pay a very large price for it, especially with gnu troff and tex available. Hence it will be difficult to justify bundling it and it will be more difficult for a small VAR to make any money reselling binaries when the initial cost and royalties are not Real Cheap. -- Walt Brainerd Sun Microsystems, Inc. wsb@eng.sun.com MS MTV 5-40 Mountain View, CA 94043 415/336-5991