Xref: utzoo comp.unix.admin:602 comp.unix.misc:637 Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!linus!nixbur!nixpbe!peun33!liesert From: liesert@nixdorf.de (Hansi) Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc Subject: Re: Managing unix complexes Message-ID: Date: 26 Nov 90 08:57:38 GMT References: <1131@duteca.UUCP> Sender: news@nixpbe.nixdorf.de Followup-To: comp.unix.admin Lines: 49 In <1131@duteca.UUCP> marcel@duteca (Marcel Mol) writes: > .... Therefor I am looking for tools/packages that help operators >and system administrators to manage their unix systems. >For example packages that help in the area of: > Problem management > Change management > User administration and Security > Disk backup > Migration/Recall of unused data to/from for example tapes > Configuration management > Performance and Capacity management > Accounting Hi out there! Sorry - I have to post a follow-up because my mail will bounce. I'm writing a master thesis (in German: Diplomarbeit) on performance management right now. So I would like to hear more of the replies to Marcel's posting. I think that today there are only few real solutions to this problem, if you consider unix. Some companies have their own software packages (e.g. HP's OpenView, AT&T's UNMA or Siemens-Nixdorf's NM), but most of them would not cover all the topics Marcel mentioned. ISO is working on standards, but right now there are no more than draft proposals (see ISO 7498-4 and 10165). The greatest disadvantage of the ISO-standards is that they only talk about the net, not the computers in it. I think you'll have to program your own solution, if you want it now (quick and dirty). For example most unix systems come with a wide collection of tools for accounting and performance evaluation. What you have to do is to collect these data in a database and then start some queries and computings on these. That sounds easy, but it isn't, because the amount of data rises very quick. So you need a careful filter that deletes stuff not required (e.g. delete all the data from none prime time). If you want a good solution, you'll have to wait. Bye -- | Hans Joachim Liesert, Dep. STO-SI 35 | Email: liesert.pad@sni.de | | Siemens-Nixdorf Informationssysteme AG | Outside Europe: | | Pontanusstrasse 55 | liesert.pad@nixdorf.com | | W-4790 Paderborn, Germany | Disc.: I don't speak for SNI!!! |