Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!src.honeywell.com!msi.umn.edu!cs.umn.edu!quest!digibd!rhealey From: rhealey@digibd.com (Rob Healey) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: SCO doesn't sell UNIX Message-ID: <1990Nov29.205938.3671@digibd.com> Date: 29 Nov 90 20:59:38 GMT References: <1990Nov21.232102.26005@pegasus.com> <1990Nov23.080906.24510@robobar.co.uk> <27519123.34A2@tct.uucp> Organization: Digiboard Incorporated, St. Louis Park, MN Lines: 47 In article <27519123.34A2@tct.uucp> chip@tct.uucp (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >According to ronald@robobar.co.uk (Ronald S H Khoo): >>SCO Unix, on the other hand is a different kettle of fish altogether. >>... because they've completely changed the semantics of just about >>everything so much (because of their "security" "enhancements") >>so it might be fair to call SCO Unix "Not a real Unix". > >I completely agree. > >C2 security cannot be disabled on "SCO Unix" systems. It can be >"relaxed," but that's not the same as "disabled." The "SCO Unix" >product is actually "SCO Unix-Flavored C2 Operating System." > Ok, I'll bite. What IS a "real" UNIX? Minus the security SCO UNIX 3.2v2.0 seems pretty damn 3.2 to me, as much as any other "UNIX" system that claims 3.2. Isn't there a little problem with AT&T lawyers if you use "UNIX" in the name of your product and it isn't 3.2 or 4.x "certified"? Aside from the fact that everyone seems to have joyous glee in bashing SCO as often as possible and the security fiasco, WHAT in SCO UNIX 3.2v2 makes it incompatable with 3.2 from a user's point of view? I program on a SCO UNIX 3.2v2 box and security hasn't bothered me or my programs that much; i.e. gcc, gas, gdb and the usual development tools. SCO isn't being sued by AT&T for misuse of the UNIX name so why isn't it a 3.2 type UNIX? 1) I can see where using an ANSI compiler might screw up old time C programmer's code that uses uncasted incompatable types with wild abondon. 2) Drivers are obviously different. That can be good and bad. 3) POSIX conformance creates some fun with signals, job control and tty related stuff. But that will be a problem on ANY OS that is POSIX conformant. I've done the first 3, now all you bashers who have obviously spent more time on SCO UNIX 3.2v2 than me fill in the rest! I anxiously await all the things I should watch out for. -Rob Speaking for self, not company.