Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu From: dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu (David Mark) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Contact Notes of Winter Birds in Seattle Message-ID: <47471@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 25 Nov 90 17:14:52 GMT References: <11634@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: news@acsu.Buffalo.EDU Distribution: rec.birds Organization: SUNY Buffalo Lines: 39 Nntp-Posting-Host: lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu In article <11634@milton.u.washington.edu> jespah@milton.u.washington.edu (Kathleen Hunt) writes: > >Hi, everyone. ... ... ... I'm having trouble >with those damn little mixed flocks. I've got no problem if they would >only sing their little songs or call their little calls, but when they >just sit up there going "ee ee ee" I have an awful hard time telling apart >golden-crowned kinglets, ruby-crowned kinglets, black-capped chickadees, >and chestnut-backed chickadees. I seem to be able to hear slight differences >in the peeps, but I don't know if that's just individual variation or if >there are really reliable differences among the species. Does anyone have >any suggestions? The "ee ee ee" is Golden-crowned Kinglets. The chickadees do little 'twit' and so on notes, and occasionally full "chick-a-dee" calls. I don't remember if one can readily tell the contact calls of CBC and BCC apart, although their "chick-a-dee" calls are "easy when you know how. >.... and there's another bird that goes "eee eee" with a relatively >long pause. Does that ring any bells for anyone? That is Brown Creeper. > >And while I have your undivided attention :-), I would like to confirm >differences in the "chick-a-dees". Seems that the black-cappeds, the ones >I am most familiar with, have a full-bodied, rather deep "chick-a-dee-dee- >dee-dee" usually with several throaty dee's. The chestnut-backed (the ones >I am unfamiliar with since I never saw them back east) seem to be have >higher voices and have a shorter call, just "chick-a-dee" with one dee, and >the dee is sort of buzzy. Have I got that right? Just the opposite in my recollection. Chestnut-backs' "chick-a-dee" calls are much deeper and "huskier" [especially on the UW campus :-)] Chestnut-backs also more often do a "dee-dee-dee" without the leading "chick-a" (in my recollection-- I live in Buffalo now, but grew up in Vancouver, BC). David Mark dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu