Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!turpin From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Are Humans Naturally Monogamous? Summary: The slipperiness of "natural" predispositions. Message-ID: <15028@cs.utexas.edu> Date: 24 Nov 90 16:26:20 GMT References: <1990Oct24.175532.9407@pmafire.UUCP> <15490@netcom.UUCP> <1990Oct26.000754.24765@odin.corp.sgi.com> <4836@lure.latrobe.edu.au> <1990Nov22.191009.20772@watserv1.waterloo.edu> <1990Nov23.015509.14871@massey.ac.nz> <14977@cs.utexas.edu> <1990Nov23.172523.157 Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 71 ------ In article <1990Nov23.172523.15769@watserv1.waterloo.edu> alternat@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Ann Hodgins) writes: > ... I think that most people realize that all our behaviours > from early in childhood are a mixture of hereditary predispositions > and tendencies on the one hand and on the other learned behavior. > To me it is fair enough to call a behaviour 'instinctive' is if we > have evidence of an inherited pre-disposition towards the behaviour, > ie.if we tend towards it and find it easier or more rewarding to do > than not do the instinctive behaviour. ... It depends on how you mean this. The problem with much talk about predispositions is that people are quick to think themselves predisposed to their own behavior, and then to follow the chain from this to labeling other kinds of behavior "unnatural", and then "bad". To take the subject that started this thread, there are cultures that encourage monogamy, and others that encourage some form of polygamy. As the recent postings in this newsgroup show, some individuals feel themselves "predisposed" to one, and others feel themselves "predisposed" to the other. This sense of predisposition has nothing to do with our biological nature. To describe this, one has to look at the *range* of human behavior. Biologically, one might well argue that humans are predisposed to embedding rules about inheritance (of property, status, and names), relationships, and sexual behavior into their cultural fabric. These rules work together in certain ways, and the kinds of rules are undoubtedly constrained, but overall there is a good deal of natural flexibility, as the broad range of human cultures attests. It is ridiculous to talk about some of these as being more "instinctive" or "natural" than others. All such behavior in individuals is culturally influenced, so that there is little basis for saying that the X sexual behavior as reflected in one set of cultures is "more natural" than Y sexual behavior as reflected in another set of cultures. Such claims almost always reflect the provencalism of the speaker. (Even conclusions about what is "natural" that are drawn from the relative number of practicing cultures are often naive, because the landscape of cultures visible today is determined by historical success, which is a much more narrow filter than what is biologically natural.) I am not sure what kinds of predispositions Ms Hodgins considers natural, so none of the above is necessarily a critique of what she wrote. (Her writing would not have triggered these comments if instead of writing about labeling "a behavior 'instinctive'" she had written about labeling a *range* of behaviors 'instinctive'".) I think many biologists restrict the use of instinct to mean specific behaviors that are only minimally influenced by culture, for example, mating rituals that do not need to be taught. It is silly to argue over what definitions are "correct". I do not mean to say that it is incorrect to talk about the biologically determined constraints on human culture as instincts or predispositions, only that one should realize several important aspects of this. (1) Such constraints are quite broad. (2) We have only a partial picture of them. (3) Within these broad constraints, talking about more narrow kinds of behavior as "instinctive" or "natural" has no biological justification. Labeling more narrow behavior as "instinctive" or "natural" is frequently used by people as a way to sneak their preferences, moral beliefs, or religion into biological or anthropological discussion, and thereby misappropriate the label "natural" or "scientific" for these things. Recent postings in this thread exhibit precisely this fallacy. Russell