Xref: utzoo sci.bio:3983 soc.women:30048 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!ohstpy!miavx1!miamiu!jahayes From: JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET (Josh Hayes) Newsgroups: sci.bio,soc.women Subject: Re: Men barred from primatology conference Message-ID: <90332.111112JAHAYES@MIAMIU.BITNET> Date: 28 Nov 90 16:11:12 GMT References: <1061@ai.cs.utexas.edu> <15147@cs.utexas.edu> Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service Lines: 23 For people's information, there were two follow-up letters to _Science_, 16 November issue, page 887. The first (By Joel Shurkin) raised the same point as Russ Turpin, namely: "Imagine the publicity and outcry that would result if a group of male researchers decided to hold a meeting on, say, prostate surgery or male impotence and barred women because 'it had to do with male life histories'. Imagine that they decided to forbid women science writers....." (this latter comment refers to the original plans of the conference to also bar male journalists, a plan which later was withdrawn). But as the second writer (Jim Moore, UCSD Anthro dept) points out, "...the test of the hypothesis [that women can work better without male posturing and filibustering] will be in the publications that result, which all will have access to. The burden of proof is now on the organizers." Amen. Josh Hayes, Zoology Department, Miami University, Oxford OH 45056 voice: 513-529-1679 fax: 513-529-6900 jahayes@miamiu.bitnet, or jahayes@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu "I am the Supreme Being, you know; I'm not completely dim."