Xref: utzoo sci.bio:4016 soc.men:23948 soc.women:30104 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!linac!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!agate!ucbvax!VMS.HUJI.AC.IL!rwerman From: rwerman@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL (ROBERT WERMAN) Newsgroups: sci.bio,soc.men,soc.women Subject: Re: Men barred from primatology conference Message-ID: <532@shum.UUCP> Date: 29 Nov 90 23:35:56 GMT References: <1061@ai.cs.utexas.edu> <15147@cs.utexas.edu> <8283@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: rwerman@vms.huji.ac.il Followup-To: sci.bio Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem, Israel Lines: 54 In article <8283@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, austern@ux5.lbl.gov (Matt Austern) writes... >In particular, it is claimed that male and female primatologists >report very different patterns of behavior; men seem, for example, to >be much more prone to report male dominance. >An all-female primatology conference still might not be a smart idea, >but there is reason for it---it wasn't just done on a whim. ************************************************************************* If you are talking about a political meeting, it might be justifiable, and not done on a whim. But what sort of SCIENTIFIC [Primatology or otherwise] meeting prohibits attendance of those holding an unpolpular [or in this case, a popular] view of a particular set of phenomena? This exclusionary behavior puts the organizers of this conference outside of the realm of science. It has some of the absurdity of the memorial service in GARP. It is in fact a smart idea politically, and serves to mobilize the frustrated, create a new private in-group, and gain publicity. But science [let alone SCIENCE], no, no, no. It is not science. __Bob Werman rwerman@hujivms Jerusalem ` `