Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:15823 misc.consumers:24696 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!media-lab!minsky From: minsky@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Marvin Minsky) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,misc.consumers Subject: Re: Halogen Lamps, too (was Re: florescent bulbs replacing inca Message-ID: <4171@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Date: 26 Nov 90 06:25:28 GMT References: <1990Nov16.091211@mathcs.emory.edu> <1990Nov17.211808.21546@ameristar> <27836@mimsy.umd.edu> <57@deeptht.UUCP> <36224@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: minsky@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) Organization: MIT Media Lab, Cambridge MA Lines: 18 I have some large, dark panelled rooms, and it is prohibitively expensive to keep them well lit with incandescent bulbs. So I've used compact fluorescent bulbs for the last couple of years. Sixteen Panasonic 20-watt units. The light color is almost satisfactory, and the 16 bulbs give enough light, but they've noticeably dimmed since new. So that 6000-10000 hour rating hasn't been realistic, although they haven't burned out. I estimate they're actually at about 1500-2000 hours by now, and will soon need replacing. If so, those nice "energy efficiency" numbers may be considered deceptive! IN two other rooms, I used similar units made by Lights of America. These are half the cost (9-10 dollars). But the solid state converter-ballast unit in the base burns out, and most of them have died in less than 2000 hours. (The Panasonic units contain a fair-sized inductor, while the LOA units contain a mere couple grams of transistors and other small components. Obviously the margins are too small.)